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Let me preface this by stating my perceived credentials AND lack of credentials - I am not a raid strategist. If I were a raid strategist I might do this differently. I do believe I have an excellent understanding of raid healing and healing teams and that this understanding is in some ways linked to a fairly good understanding of tanking (though I’m a terrible tank) but when it comes to DPS and what to CC for the trash etc, it’s just not my thing. Thankfully I have an amazing raid leader in my employ to do those things for me and let me do “the healing thing.” I also have 6 years of statistical analysis under my belt and I’m not afraid to confuse you with it.
So for me the first step was to limit myself to my strengths and go find someone to look over the DPS for ways to strengthen that. Sure I could poke my head in the DPS numbers, but I know my lack of experience and understanding will just make me look like an idiot. So I started with asking my amazing raid leader AND my amazing fury warrior what they thought of the DPS. Their feedback bore out what I was seeing too, that the DPS is not currently what is keeping us from winning this fight. With that in mind, I still asked them to look over their DPSers for any improvements they can make in anticipation of Brutalus and because despite some boss mechanics being designed to challenge one aspect or another of a raid, all raid roles can help compensate for each other. I also asked them for their perspective on the tanking and healing regarding threat generation and early DPS deaths. I learned that threat gen was fine and the few early DPS deaths we’d had were mostly avoidable by those DPSers.
So with the concerns of the DPS heard and knowing the DPS was in more capable hands than mine, I shifted to what is my focus, healing. Before we continue, I’d like to take a moment of silence to mourn the lose of my Assessment death reports to the combat log changes and point others who share my woes to GrimReaper (from WoWAce.com) as the only semi working in-game death report mod I’ve found since 2.4. For “what went wrong” from a healing perspective, a death reporting mod is the quickest way to find out why a tank died. That being said, I had no such tool for our Kalecgos attempts, so I started by crawling through our WWS logs and manually finding tank deaths. Hours later I emerged from my hole muttering about demons, dragons and looking for Advil. I also had a sheet of paper noting the first tank that died for each of our attempts, what healers were in that tank’s side, what spells they were casting, what damage the boss was doing to the tank, and what tricks if any the tank has used to aid in his survival. I promptly put that list down and took a break.
Once I’d recovered my will to look at Kalecgos information again, I started drawing conclusions from the information I’d gathered. We were taking 9 healers to this fight. 3-4 Shaman, 2-3 Priests, 1 druid and 2 Pallys. We were using either 4 shaman, or 3 shaman and 1 priest for raid healing and the rest as tank healers. I noted the following things seemed to be true for most of our tank deaths: healers were in the process of being ported from one side to the other, our druid was on the tank side or pallyA was on the tank side. I noted that PallyA was mostly casting Flash of Light. I noted that our druid was pretty much exclusively casting Lifeblooms. I noted that my healers that typically cast big heals were generally on the other side when tanks died. And I discovered one of our tanks was not making any attempts to save himself.
Okay Auz good job, have a cookie! Nope not done yet. I’d figured out how we were not killing it, but now it was time to figure out what guilds that are killing it are doing. So I went WWS hopping. If you don’t know how to do this, just go to their site and browse by boss. The first thing I did was pop over to damage in and see how many tanks they are using. Since my illustrious raid strategy dude pulled together a 3 tank rotation I decided to ignore the 2 and 4 tank reports I saw. It seems counterintuitive to teach my raiders a new rotation strat this late in the game.
So I found 3 reports from different guilds that used three tanks. I took a look at the damage in and found something odd. For 2 of the 3 fights the damage the tanks were taking was 20% lower than our tanks. Looking deeper I found that our tanks were taking an average of 300 more damage per hit than those 2 sets of tanks and it seemed they were dodging more attacks than my tanks. These fights also lasted about a minute longer than our best attempt. I wrote this down on my paper and looked into the other one. On this one the tanks were taking slightly more damage than our tanks so this looked promising to me, what could these marvelous healers be doing? It turns out that guild took 10 healers and 3 shadow priests who were healing a large amount with their VT. Note to self: Bring more shadow priests! I also noted with pride that our DPSers kicked the shit out of the other guild’s DPSers and it made me proud. (I might need a bumper sticker or something)
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- Tell druid more direct heals or pair a direct healer with him.
- Tell PallyA to use holy light.
- Ask for shadow priests to help raid heal, freeing more healers for tanks.
- Ask MT if he and other tanks are wearing avoidance or mitigation gear, ask about important tanking pieces our tanks might be missing - see about loot counsel assigning those piece to the tanks if needed.
- Make armor pots for tanks to be used on healer transitions (thanks fury warrior of awesomeness for the idea!)
- Speak to illustrious raid leader about other ways we can help boost our tanks mitigation.
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- Blog about this process, maybe it’ll help someone else.
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